Why AI Neville says we should not be delusional and imagining that our SP is part of our daily routines, if we are to assume they are already our married spouse? Only this a contradiction ?

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   LALaura Aguilar · 8d ago · edited

   Thats a very good question and i’m also super confused about this concept. So i asked Claude Ai to help me understand. And here is the answer: “ Neville's whole system rests on the distinction between the two. Being a wife, in his terms, is an inner condition — the settledness, the absence of wondering, the way you'd hold yourself if the question were closed. It has no external behaviour attached to it. A married woman eating alone is still married; her state doesn't require a second chair. So the poster's last line has it backwards. Eating alone doesn't defeat living from the end. Needing someone at the table to feel married is what defeats it, because it makes the state contingent on a visible fact — which is exactly the dependence on the senses Neville was trying to break. Worth knowing that he gave almost this exact instruction, though. To single women who wanted to marry, he said to feel the wedding ring on the finger and to sense the presence of a husband beside them in bed. But he located it precisely: in the drowsy state before sleep, done once, then dropped into sleep. Not carried into the day. He was consistent that the imaginal act belongs to that controlled state and that the rest of life is lived normally — he warned specifically against aimless reverie and daydreaming, which he considered the opposite of the disciplined act, not an extension of it. There's also his own test, which settles it cleanly: a persuaded assumption stops needing rehearsal. If you truly believed it, you wouldn't need to stage it three times a day. Repetition in waking hours is the tell that it hasn't taken — you're checking, and the checking is the state of lack. Neville said the feeling of the wish fulfilled, once accepted, is followed by forgetting it.“ So to resume, we do the imaginal act at soecific moments, before sleeping and waking up, then let it go, and be with your life and with yourself during wake times(?). But i also read about success stories where the person did what you are doing, as well as many other steps of the manifestation process, so im wondering if what worked was the rest accumulated rather than this act of “talking” to an invisible person from a place of lack maybe etc . … Not so easy to wrap our heads around this, but We will get there!!

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      ◆SereneAssumer · 7d ago

      Thank you so much for this Laura ! The thing is, I don’t feel that I’m forcing or faking anything during I’m awake. I am more like a delusional person during the day. My SP “is” in my life and I just naturally talk to him and do things with him. I’ve always been the kind of person who talks to myself and have “imaginary friends” while I’m wide awake but I’m not crazy. It’s just who I am. And when I’m being delusional talking to someone invisible, I’m not even feeling or looking for that “satisfaction” of how good it feels “if” my SP is physically with me. It’s not an “if he’s here then it feels good” thing. It’s just not an “if, then” thing. I’m just living in the moment naturally knowing he’s with me and that’s why I also naturally make conversations with him and I can’t help it. For me it’s the other way around like if I don’t have conversations with the invisible him it feels like I’m forcing myself to “remember” that he’s actually not here. I don’t really know how to put this in words :-p I think Athena and Tom Kearn both have videos saying we should be as de lulu as we can during the day and we shouldn’t be afraid to be de lulu. So I’m really confused. I know 100% in my bones that my manifestation will come. I know my SP will conform. I just don’t know if I’m doing my manifestation properly and I don’t want to be doing anything (even if it feels so natural to do) to sabotage my manifestation. That said, I had manifested things before that I didn’t do anything after I had the thought of the desire. But they’re just trivial things that weren’t that important and I guess that’s why I didn’t even remember about them after I had the thought and then one day they just came to pass. Not necessarily right away. Sometimes it took a few weeks or a few months or even years. For example my office moved from one floor to another many years ago and I remember that one day before the move, me and my colleague looked at the new floor plan/seating plan and I randomly and jokingly said to him “hey this is my new desk and I’m going to sit there.” (Pointing to a random desk on the new seating plan). Then I forgot about it. A few months later when our boss had finally decided who’s going to sit where, I was told that I would be sitting at the desk I pointed at on the seating plan months ago. And when it happened I didn’t even feel amazed or whatever cuz it’s something so unimportant. Another time I was trying to sell my condo and I jokingly told my friend that I would close the deal at $375k (just a very random number I had in mind at the time). Then I forgot about it. And when I finally had an offer, we closed it at exactly $375k. I think when it comes to SP, it’s different. Because an SP is a living person with fresh and blood, a being, that actually moves and talks and is very much a part of our life. Unlike an object or a situation that doesn’t affect what we do and say physically everyday - for example, when you are married you talk to another person, your spouse everyday and do things together with them everyday vs when you say grand your dream job, it’s still just yourself dealing with your job and no one else in your life is directly “being” a part of it.